You can listen to my appearance on the Accidental Gods podcast here. There is also a full transcript available in that link.

Blurb: "Rupert Read is convinced that societal collapse is inevitable – and near.  And that this is White Swan effect – it’s not remotely surprising or coming out of left field. So this being the case, we need to act – we have a choice between crashing into extinction OR moving forward to a transformation of our culture and society so profound that what transpires bears no resemblance to the current society".